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What Sametime client versions are embedded in what Notes client versions?

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What Sametime client versions are embedded in what Lotus Notes client versions?


A specific Sametime version is packaged "in the box" with each Notes client version. The Notes version and Sametime embedded version that ship together are as follows:

  • Notes 8.0 = Sametime 7.5.1
  • Notes 8.0.1 = Sametime 8.0
  • Notes 8.0.2 = Sametime 8.0 + some fixes
  • Notes 8.5 = Sametime 8.0.1
  • Notes 8.5.1 = Sametime 8.0.2 (specifically
  • Notes 8.5.2 = Sametime 8.0.2 (specifically
  • Notes 8.5.3 = Sametime 8.5.1
  • Notes 9.0 = Sametime 8.5.2 IFR1

To see this information within the Notes client, select Help -> About Lotus Notes -> Feature Details button.

Upgrading the embedded Sametime to a later version

One of the options for Notes client feature deployment is use of a custom add-on installer. To allow you to upgrade the version of the Sametime client embedded within the Notes client, the latest release of Sametime provides an add-on installer already customized to perform this version upgrade.

The following table shows the Sametime version that is included in-the-box with the Notes client, and the available add-on installers for Sametime 8.5.x.

Table of embedded versions and add-on installer versions:

Client Sametime version (shipped in the box) Add-on installer for 8.5
Notes 8.0 7.5.1 Not applicable
Notes 8.0.1 8.0 Not applicable
Notes 8.0.2 8.0 Not applicable
Notes 8.5 8.0.1 Not applicable
Notes 8.5.1 8.0.2
  • Sametime 8.5 (Windows only)
  • Sametime 8.5.1
Notes 8.5.1 FP1 8.0.2
  • Sametime 8.5 (Windows only)
  • Sametime 8.5.1
Notes 8.5.2 8.0.2
  • Sametime 8.5 (Windows only)
  • Sametime 8.5.1
  • Sametime 8.5.2
Notes 8.5.3 8.5.1
  • Sametime 8.5.2
Notes 9.0 8.5.2 IFR1
  • Sametime 9
Notes 9.0.1 8.5.2 IFR1
  • Sametime 9

Refer to the download document for a particular Sametime version to identify the part number to obtain the client add-on installer:

For an example of how to perform this upgrade, refer to "Upgrading the IBM Lotus Sametime client embedded in IBM Lotus Notes to Lotus Sametime 8.5.1." This wiki article describes how to upgrade the Sametime embedded client within a Notes 8.5.1 FP3 client from Sametime 8.0.2 to Sametime 8.5.1 by using either the Sametime add-on installer alone or in conjunction with Lotus Notes Smart Upgrade.

Only when a Notes update or install, or Sametime add-on installer, containing newer Sametime client code is run will the embedded Sametime client be upgraded.

  • Notes client install versions containing older Sametime versions WILL NOT downgrade the newer embedded Sametime client when installed over a Notes client with an upgraded embedded Sametime client.
  • Notes client install versions containing newer Sametime versions WILL upgrade the embedded Sametime client when installed over a Notes client with an upgraded, but older, embedded Sametime client.

Cross reference information
Segment Product Component Platform Version Edition
Messaging Applications IBM Notes Instant Messaging Windows 8.5, 8.0

Document information

More support for: IBM Sametime
Connect client

Software version: 8.5, 8.5.1,,, 8.5.2,, 9.0,

Operating system(s): Linux, OS X, Windows

Reference #: 1370003

Modified date: 04 October 2011

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